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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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fireside chats his aim was to reassure

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the common man that our society would

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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welcome to the show higher side chatters

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drinking a little drink smoking a little

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smoke from sunny san diego i'm greg

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carlwood today we're going to be talking

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to foster gamble the main attraction at

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this year's conspiracy con and the

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creator of the thrive documentary as

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well as the thrive movement which is

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attempting to move us from the matrix of

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corruption manipulation slavery into a

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system that works with rather than

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against the natural state of the planet

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which should be thriving but before we

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bring them in we're going to catch up a

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bit with thc co-host and contributor

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kyle prinneville common man how's it

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hanging

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i'm doing really well

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despite the thing yeah

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yes

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yeah there's a lot of weird crazy [\h__\h]

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going on out there our rights are

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definitely being infringed upon uh

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domestic terrorists are being

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assassinated without trial

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um

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but you know

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uh kitchen nightmares was cool this week

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yeah that was a good one solid episode

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so what's up with you man

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um i don't know i mean speaking of tv

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i've been getting into uh this show

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really and i've heard about that show

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but it seems it seems kind of juvenile

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i think uh on one level it is like some

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episodes have that appeal but there's a

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dual theme because some episodes have

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such rich symbolism and deep meaning i'm

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like blown away

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with some of them i pondered these

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episodes for days afterwards trying to

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figure out what they meant really

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do you have a

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um so there's this one uh episode where

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jake and finn are the main characters

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they're the boy and the dog okay and

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they're trying

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to build a battle dock a kind of like

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doc you go through it there's all these

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obstacles super dangerous and then you

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jump into the water

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and so they it's taken them forever

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but an iceberg comes and these

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businessmen

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are found they thaw them out and then

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these businessmen are all wearing suits

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and have briefcases and they immediately

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want to go to work

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and so jake and fenn you know decide to

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put him to work

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and uh these guys

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build the battle dock for them this is

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the first thing that they do and they're

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great at it they finish it in no time

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uh it's just cool because the metaphor

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for this then jake and fenn actually go

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through the dock and what happens is

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they're jumping over obstacles they're

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saw blades axes trying to you know chop

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them up they get cut and bruised they

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jump through this fire ring and they

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just barely escape and they get into the

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water and then they're like huffing and

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puffing and all bruised and we're like

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whoa that was sweet

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but you know on the surface that that

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means nothing the episode just moves on

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but i think about this and what the

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create was something that was dangerous

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only fun because you felt like you were

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gonna die and at the end of it was

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ultimately pointless and even if you

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succeed you come out damaged

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that's what business men do

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that is what businessmen are [\h__\h]

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that's what they've constructed this

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whole world to be

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yeah i mean that's cool there it you

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used to see that uh symbolism that dual

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dual meaning the double entendre and a

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lot of old looney tunes cartoons but i

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uh lost in a lot of today's [\h__\h] but

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adventure time definitely has a

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following and i i wonder if that's part

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of the reason why but i can't get past

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i don't know what's up with you man

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uh you know same old same old doing the

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thing but um you know a mutual friend of

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ours fernando is gonna be coming out to

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san diego to visit and apparently this

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is going to be my initiation into the

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world of dmt

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oh well congratulations

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that on the heels of your last article

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for thc helpful tips for psychedelic

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trips i mean

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you've obviously been experienced you've

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the dmt cult if you will but

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what do you think i should expect i'm

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i'm definitely ready i feel like got a

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lot more knowledge about it than a lot

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of other people do before they go into

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it maybe but what do you think what

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should i be ready for

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well i borrowed the uh dmt spirit

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molecule book by uh rick strassman from

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you true so that was sweet and one thing

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that they go into in that book during

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the sessions is that because it's a

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laboratory setting

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tying it with my article what i would

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just do a

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relaxing setting this is not i mean it's

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not like acid it's not like mushrooms or

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something you're not gonna pop some dmt

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anything like that like you're going to

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and part of you is going to die and you

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are going to face your own death in a

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certain way

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understanding that like it's not a

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physical actual dying but it's some kind

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of transformation where

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a new form of sensory experience that

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words are impossible to define what it

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actually was that happened

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but that's awesome you're gonna enjoy it

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man i don't know what to tell you to

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expect i don't know how it actually

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you've done it what

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what was the most unexpected thing to

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my reflections now are

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permanent or at least lasting i can't

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say permanent but lasting over a long

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honest point of view i'm more honest

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when meaning comes at me in my life when

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synchronicities and things happen in a

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certain order that it's almost

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impossible how events lined up this way

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that really touches me and i release uh

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truth and honesty and sometimes i

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you know sometimes it scares people like

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i worked this last job i just quit my

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last the day i decided to just quit

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it was because i cried in front of

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everybody and these other dudes my god

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you think they've never seen a guy cry

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something that's kind of frowned upon

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you know guys guys can't be [\h__\h] man

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guy's got everybody is so good at

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playing this hey nobody ever cries

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[\h__\h] and we pretend oh okay we can

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all we i can hang with that i'm a guy

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but after you smoke dmt man it might be

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like you know what [\h__\h] that game i'm

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tired of that game and sometimes i gotta

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yeah i mean i guess if it makes you more

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genuine that's obviously a positive

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thing i mean i just recently read a

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mckenna quote that i thought was pretty

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good and probably relevant that

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to deal with this society and keep your

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sanity requires a certain level of

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and that's kind of what you're talking

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it's that's alienation for the people

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who face it who face truth or you can

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just numb and this is what the majority

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and this is what even people who are

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awakened or going down the path they

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numb themselves too everybody

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self-medicates to some degree but like

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numbing emotion numbing how you actually

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not expressing what you actually want to

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say

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like all that stuff there's a there's a

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certain level of numbing you have to do

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to fit in with society oh 100 gotta be

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numbing aspect i mean that is the nine

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to five for most people i mean i inside

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emotion but a lot of times inside i am

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boiling at the [\h__\h] and the

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stupidity of what i'm dealing with at

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work but of course like hey how you

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doing welcome anything i can help you

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find you guys doing all right today all

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um and you know i [\h__\h] hate that [\h__\h]

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you know because inside i'm just like

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wow i am

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a slave i'm a [\h__\h] organ grinding

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monkey you know i'm just collecting

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change for some other dude

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we we talk about that kind of [\h__\h] a lot

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i am excited to to do dmt

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i feel like it's something that a person

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in my position kind of needs to do and

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you know we'll see how it goes i i

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appreciate him bringing it out but i'm

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definitely prepared for something

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somewhat similar to salvia but more

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intense

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and we'll see how it goes but foster

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gamble is calling me right now so i'm

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going to not answer that call but at

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wrap up this and then bring him in

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all right well looks like foster is here

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as planned so let's get him in here

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after i torture you once again with the

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same boring ad for my conspiracy t-shirt

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brand conspiracies right now it's the

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only way to really support the show

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other than a donation via paypal on the

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higher side chat's website and it's

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something that helps me immensely and

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i've worked really hard to have designs

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and a level of quality that i'm really

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proud of and kyle can vouch for the

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quality can you not

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i dig these shirts i wear these shirts

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in coffee bars and people are saying hey

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man why the hell is there a pope's miter

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on top of an all-seeing eye with squid

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tentacles i'm like you know you know why

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that's that's awesome man i definitely

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get some crazy looks when i'm wearing a

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quit your job shirt or a what's after

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capitalism shirt

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or a shirt with a giant sheep's head and

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a suit people like what does that mean

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you know i had someone at a hotel a

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person working at a hotel that asked me

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what it means i'm like well it's it's a

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mirror in some ways

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and they just were like they did not get

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that at all but i'm like you know we're

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all corporate sheep and this is kind of

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just trying to put that out there that

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the corporate job is not as

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great and wonderful and happy as

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the people who give you the job say it's

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going to be or the people who there's

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this like the culture of pretending you

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know and i feel like the the sheephead

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shirt is a bit of honesty a bit of bold

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honesty

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for those who are uh on that level and

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other people it's just gonna go right

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over their head or look like something

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weird and that's fine but i love the

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shirts i make the shirts for you

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you buy the shirts for me it's a it's a

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beautiful partnership

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and we're gonna be right back with

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we're here because we don't buy into the

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[\h__\h] of mainstream culture we're

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tired of the mundane passionless careers

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we've been shuffled into as a result of

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this orchestrated debt-based system of

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rule and the stranglehold on education

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entertainment by cold soulless

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corporations

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people yes we are frustrated yes we are

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tired and we reject the pre-approved

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tranquilizers that are monday night

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football and an ice-cold budweiser we

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have to stop hiding stop hiding behind

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the headphones in the cherry popper 420

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username

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let the world see that the resistance is

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strong and society is changing if it was

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a time to be anonymous but that time has

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passed

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and so the higher side chats would like

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to present conspiracies as the dawning

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of this new paradigm in the uniform of

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the revolution

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because bold fashion should mean more

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than some celebrity meat dress or frappe

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in a sleeping problem

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conspiracy redefines bold fashion as

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having the balls to project socially

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uncomfortable and unpopular truths from

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your radiant chest all [\h__\h] day

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conspirates.net

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let them know that you know bold designs

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for troubled times

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here we go higher side chatters joining

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kyle and i today is foster gamble the

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man behind the thrive movie which

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follows foster's path of awakening to

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the big conspiracy from the discovery of

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a natural and sustainable energy system

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which appears throughout nature and is

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embedded in ancient sites in modern day

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crop circles to the realization that

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this information is being aggressively

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suppressed by multinational corporations

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in the banking elite because it would

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all but shatter the perpetuated lie that

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we live in a world of scarcity and

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limited resources which must be

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carefully managed by the unjust monetary

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structure of bondage they just so happen

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to have handy well lucky us

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and foster is also one of the main

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attractions at this year's conspiracy

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con

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taking place in the san jose area june

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1st and 2nd which is where i'll be

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hanging out as well foster welcome to

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thc how are you

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i'm doing great greg thanks for having

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me on absolutely it's a real pleasure my

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man i'm a huge fan of the

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make a documentary and follow up with a

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movement strategy which i only only

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really see it with you guys and the

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zeitgeist movement and venus project but

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you all do a great job of showing how

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screwed up our society is and that it's

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not a coincidence and that things won't

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be fixed until we have some really

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radical changes to the system itself

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yeah well that was our intention

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actually with the movie the movie was

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intended to be a flyer for the i mean a

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trailer for the website right that's

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awesome because you know even if you see

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a movie three or four times which a lot

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of people are with thrive because it's

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very information rich

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still then you've seen the movie and and

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then what and we didn't want to just you

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know wake people up to a lot of bad news

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and abandon them so we really wanted to

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provide the tools on the website for

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people getting it as informed as they

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need to and then being facilitated in uh

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getting active but you can't really be

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effective in the solutions unless you

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know what's going on

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of course you know what sets thrive

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apart is the central theme of the torres

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energy field you know that's that's

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obviously not found in those other those

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other films with a similar theme but

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let's get the party started there can

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you kind of explain a bit uh what the

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torres energy field is and tell us how

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you were able to learn about this energy

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system amongst all the attempts to keep

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it covered up

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sure that's one of my favorite topics uh

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because really it it's the icon of

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wholeness and i think wholeness is the

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key to all of the solutions and the

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taurus t-o-r-u-s this is not the

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astrological sign

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the the taurus is a

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donut-shaped whirlpool vortex

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that it turns out uh is the single

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pattern that nature uses to sustain a

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healthy system as far as we can tell at

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every known level of the universe you

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know from subatomic particles to

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clusters of galaxy it's all toroidal

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fields and including fruits and humans

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and planets in between

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so

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it's not just an interesting scientific

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phenomenon if our evolutionary

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imperative really to survive much less

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thrive on a healthy planet right now is

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to learn how to create sustainable

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systems

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then i think it would be really useful

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uh if we had a template if we had a

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blueprint for how to do that well the

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universe it turns out is providing one

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at every place we can look

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if we simply learn how to see

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and i was first introduced to this uh by

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i would say a mystical experience when i

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was 14 years old and riding on a school

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bus and gazing out the window and i

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think that the blinking lights uh

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through the

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helped put me in kind of a trance-like

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state and

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i had been pondering a lot of questions

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about energy because i was really afraid

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of uh nuclear holocaust

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after being trained in duck and cover

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right i was in elementary school i

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figured that wasn't going to work

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classic so anyway i'm riding along the

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school bus and all of a sudden i'm

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seeing this vision out the window

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of this

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vortex that is

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uh an atom

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and i'm seeing this hot nucleus in the

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center and with the electrons going

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around around the outside and then it

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morphed into a solar system with the hot

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sun at the center and the planets going

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on around the outside and i somehow got

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the sense that that that those two

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patterns were not only the same but i

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was somehow that same pattern you know

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roughly halfway between in scale between

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a tiny atom and a you know a vast solar

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system and i became

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i would say obsessed with that pattern

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and i would spend all my

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free time after sports in the afternoon

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up in the physics lab building i was

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building this sculpture

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nobody knew what i was building

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including me

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but i was taking blocks of glass that

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would reflect refract a strong light

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beam and i kept arranging them until it

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refracted the beam all the way around in

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a circle until the light went in on

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itself and just created this glowing

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circle and i turned off the lights and i

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knew that that was it that's what i had

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to build you know i felt like uh the guy

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in close encounters of the third kind

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who had to build the mountain out of

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mashed potatoes like i don't know what

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this is but you know my friends were

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saying you know it's beautiful but what

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is it and i said i don't know but that i

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think might be the fundamental energy

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pattern of the universe

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so i

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i went to my physics teacher and he said

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thank goodness what a fascinating idea

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let me know you know keep following that

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let me know what you come up with i just

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didn't know i was going to be following

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it you know for the next

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50 years

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but it really led to the to the movie

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thrive and the reason we started with it

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is because it is the template

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for solutions and

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as we have looked at the problems

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anybody's gone on our website and sees

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that we explore all what we call the 12

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main sectors of human endeavor and we've

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explored them all in depth we've

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identified the most critical issues

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we've followed the money in every issue

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and and every sector recommend solution

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strategies

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and what we found was that the good news

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is that every one of those problems

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is human made

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therefore it can be human fixed it's not

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like we've got some giant meteor coming

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toward planet earth or something like

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that these are all things that we've

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done either through intention or our own

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ignorance and what we've basically done

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is break apart whole systems whether

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it's an economic system an agricultural

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system uh an ecosystem a media system

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whatever we've broken the wholeness but

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if we look to the principles that are

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embedded in the taurus principles like

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centeredness integrity balance their

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reciprocal flow of energy in and out

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things like that then we can look to see

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how do we redesign our own systems in a

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healthy

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whole way

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and you asked about the energy

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application

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what i found in my pursuit of new

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physics you know for decades was i was

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finally led to some inventors who were

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aware of this toroidal dynamic

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and were applying it with absolutely

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exquisite technologies that were

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accessing energy in a clean

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safe and limitless way

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and as opposed to our usual ways of

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accessing energy which is you know

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burning things or crushing things or

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exploding things it's a very old macho

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paradigm

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of you know control and manipulation and

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what we mentioned in the movie is that

555
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,280
the opportunity now is to learn to to

556
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,120
have a more feminine approach more

557
00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:59,760
accepting of what nature is able to be

558
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:02,640
humble enough to dance with that pattern

559
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:03,600
so

560
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:08,960
energy or new energy labs and the ones

561
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,520
that i've seen that are being successful

562
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:13,280
every single one of them before and

563
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,320
after the movie uh are somehow creating

564
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,720
and mimicking this toroidal pattern and

565
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:20,960
then just tuning the device

566
00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,840
into a level of resonance with its

567
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:25,280
environment almost like you know a

568
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,760
couple of guitarists and a tuning up and

569
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,679
when you hit those right frequencies the

570
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:32,320
universe just starts pouring out as much

571
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,120
energy as you need out of these systems

572
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:37,120
so it's not just a wonderful technology

573
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,159
it's a it's an actual paradigm shift of

574
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:42,640
if we blend with the way energy moves in

575
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,640
the universe uh there is infinite

576
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:46,240
abundance

577
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:47,760
yeah it's interesting that you mentioned

578
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,559
the

579
00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:50,240
masculine feminine

580
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:52,159
uh aspects to this energy because in the

581
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,679
pre-show me and kyle were just talking

582
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,200
about how his experiences with

583
00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:58,000
psychedelics have kind of opened up

584
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,640
an emotional blockage that is kind of

585
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,120
perpetuated by our society that you know

586
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,200
men should be more bottled up and it's

587
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,200
kind of the feminine energy that allows

588
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:09,520
for um you know a wide range of emotions

589
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,919
so that's an interesting tie-in but

590
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,080
you know this let me just follow up on

591
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,400
that for sure because that is such

592
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,440
a core and important point that you know

593
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,159
these devices are are wonderful but

594
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,840
really ultimately we're talking about

595
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,640
aligning with our own life force with

596
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,640
our consciousness with our emotions with

597
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:31,440
our uh thinking with our breathing and

598
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,159
so forth and i think that that's a great

599
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,159
example of whether it's whether you're

600
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,159
trying out uh

601
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:40,240
in theogenes you know psychotropics

602
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,919
which will alter your consciousness and

603
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:43,600
give you a glimpse of other

604
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:44,960
realms or whether you're doing it in

605
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:47,200
meditation or therapy or

606
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,080
sports or dancing or whatever

607
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:52,480
fundamentally it's that quality of

608
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,360
aligning with resonating with the life

609
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,600
force that opens up

610
00:22:02,789 --> 00:21:59,600
the possibility of really a thriving

611
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,799
life at all scales so i just wanted to

612
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:04,559
you know put a shine a light on what

613
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,760
kyle said because i don't think there's

614
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,679
a more important point especially bring

615
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:09,760
it back to our own human lives

616
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,679
absolutely

617
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,919
well said yourself but as far as the

618
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:15,600
free energy is concerned you know this

619
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,640
is a a topic of intense debate among

620
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:20,159
people in my life that i've tried to

621
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,600
introduce to the conspiracy world

622
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,520
because a lot of times people look at

623
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,960
everything that's screwed up and they

624
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:26,720
know it's screwed up but they accept it

625
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,159
because they're under the impression

626
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,480
that alternative energy sources are

627
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,799
underdeveloped and too costly so to

628
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,720
really make the leap from well the

629
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,159
governments and companies are doing the

630
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,240
best they can with what they have to you

631
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,080
know something like no they're purposely

632
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:42,000
suppressing free energy technologies

633
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,840
that could wield unlimited power and

634
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,360
energy for everyone and they keep us

635
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:47,200
shackled under a grid of their control

636
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,440
to make that leap really requires the

637
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:50,960
fact that this technology and these

638
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,919
devices are ready now you know but yes

639
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,360
what have you seen from your research

640
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:57,120
that could make the case to people who

641
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,720
might not be all the way convinced yet

642
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,400
well there's a few things that you can

643
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:04,240
say that help with the discussion but

644
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,919
nothing is going to convince a lot of

645
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,679
people until they're sitting in front of

646
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:10,080
a device which isn't plugged in and it's

647
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,080
just pouring out clean energy that's

648
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,159
fine and i know the first time that i

649
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,559
took my wife to one of the labs and she

650
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,000
saw it for the first time she just

651
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,159
started crying you know it's just such a

652
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,720
moving experience to realize

653
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,120
the beauty of nature in that way and to

654
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:27,360
realize that human beings have learned

655
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:31,120
how to access that there is no necessity

656
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,679
to be burning fossil fuels and polluting

657
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:35,760
the skies and causing asthma and you

658
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,159
know fighting over taking oil from other

659
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,679
people's land and all that stuff it's

660
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,520
totally obsolete

661
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:43,760
in terms of what's actually manifest

662
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,159
right now so it's much more actually a

663
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:48,880
political and strategic challenge than

664
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,600
it is a technical one i can't talk about

665
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:54,159
specific devices at this point because

666
00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:55,600
it wouldn't be safe for the inventors

667
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,280
and i'm also under non-disclosure

668
00:24:02,630 --> 00:23:59,679
agreements with virtually all of the the

669
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,640
best inventors but i can simply say my

670
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,799
own opinion from my own experience and i

671
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:06,960
visited labs with you know highly

672
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,679
skilled scientists physicists engineers

673
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,120
and so forth

674
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,159
is that the technology is available

675
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,080
my sources tell me that the shadow

676
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:18,480
government has had this technology for

677
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:22,080
at least 50 or 60 years

678
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:22,880
and

679
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,000
that's one of the reasons why they know

680
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,679
who to suppress

681
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:29,360
because they know that this technology

682
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,960
is real so that if they find out about

683
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,880
someone accessing it in the correct

684
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,200
fashion and being successful

685
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,120
unfortunately in the past those people

686
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,520
have gotten their doors kicked down and

687
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,360
uh they've been threatened

688
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:43,760
and their equipment has been stolen you

689
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:45,760
know repeatedly and some of the the

690
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:46,880
inventors

691
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,000
have you know been injured or or

692
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,320
killed or or just disappeared so it's a

693
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:55,200
very very real situation that we're in

694
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,720
right now and that's why these inventors

695
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,760
need to be

696
00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:59,039
so careful

697
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,320
right someone asked me um in a uh

698
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,760
interview recently

699
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,760
what did i think would be the kind of

700
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,919
time frame for this and i just found

701
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,919
what coming up what came out of my mouth

702
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,960
was that i

703
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,960
honestly believe from what i'm seeing

704
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:14,720
that within five years there will be at

705
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:17,679
least 200 companies around the world who

706
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,240
are uh selling various types of uh over

707
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,720
unity new energy devices

708
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,279
wow yeah that's that's huge we actually

709
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,760
had a guest not long ago uh stan deo who

710
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,600
has a wild story about

711
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:34,240
creating flying saucers using a similar

712
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,279
type of vortex and you know once he was

713
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,200
talking about possibly filing a patent

714
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,360
that's when people in suits came to him

715
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,279
and said you know maybe we should just

716
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,360
show you what we're working on you know

717
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,360
because you're stumbling upon it and it

718
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:49,200
is weird but that it almost seems like

719
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,559
that patent system is a gateway to

720
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,240
you know really highlighting who's

721
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,919
messing around with stuff that the

722
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:57,279
government might not want to messing

723
00:26:03,990 --> 00:25:59,679
around with exactly the

724
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:04,000
the patent office has uh basically taken

725
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,799
over 5 000 patents uh applications for

726
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,200
uh alternative energy devices and just

727
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,919
forbidden their inventors to continue

728
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:16,000
so you know the obvious question is why

729
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,200
is that when we're having all these

730
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,880
struggles over oil why don't they just

731
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,640
let this stuff come through

732
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,480
but i think your listeners would have a

733
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,679
very sophisticated understanding of the

734
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,200
fact that

735
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,360
first of all these technologies

736
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:32,400
uh which can democratize energy so

737
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,600
quickly where people can have

738
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,520
independent off-the-grid devices that

739
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,840
run their homes their villages their

740
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,760
cities whatever

741
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:42,240
uh that threatens the

742
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,799
a multi-trillion dollar piggy bank of

743
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,760
the oil gas coal and nuclear industries

744
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:50,159
which still want to be able to sell

745
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,039
their

746
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,799
uh the resources that they're

747
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,960
controlling so that's level one level

748
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,039
two is uh those

749
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,360
industries are also controlled by the

750
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,279
the same kind of central banking

751
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,360
families that we describe when we follow

752
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,600
the money in thrive and those people

753
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,440
aren't just interested in money they're

754
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,279
interested in controlling people's lives

755
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:11,840
through energy as well as food and media

756
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,240
education uh money

757
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,360
etc but the the last reason that i'm

758
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,279
mentioned because some of the people in

759
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:20,960
the conspiracy realm have not

760
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,559
necessarily explored the et

761
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,240
domain very much

762
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,240
and adam trombley says it very clearly

763
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,559
in our movie that the suppression of

764
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,279
free energy and the suppression of ufo

765
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,480
and et information goes hand in hand

766
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:39,039
because if people recognize

767
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,320
that

768
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,720
there are beings here from

769
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,080
uh other

770
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,159
planets other

771
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,039
solar systems other galaxies much less

772
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,080
other you know dimensional realms uh the

773
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,919
first thing they're gonna ask is how'd

774
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:55,600
they get here i don't think they're

775
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,320
burning chevron fossil fuel you know for

776
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:00,399
30 000 years to come from the nearest

777
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,520
solar system right so they're obviously

778
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,360
accessing energy

779
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,679
from anywhere in space and have

780
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,440
developed some sort of

781
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,799
fuelless

782
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,799
propulsion and this ties in with the

783
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,799
comment that you said your your prior

784
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,399
guest had mentioned

785
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,960
uh that the also the free energy devices

786
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:20,880
tend to go hand in hand with

787
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:23,360
anti-gravity devices because when you

788
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,320
start rotating these magnetic fields at

789
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:28,480
certain frequencies

790
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:32,240
they will uh number one uh develop a low

791
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:35,520
pressure area above them and start to

792
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,200
rise and and secondly um

793
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,000
they will tend to disconnect from the

794
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,919
space-time continuum that we're

795
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,840
accustomed to and that's why they're you

796
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:48,880
know just hundreds and hundreds of uh

797
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,279
reputable ufo sightings where people

798
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,600
talk about the these ships going

799
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,120
thousands of miles an hour and all of a

800
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,120
sudden making a you know a right angle

801
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,880
turn which would obviously in

802
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,120
traditional physics crush any being that

803
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,159
was inside that uh even the materials

804
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,960
themselves so something else is going on

805
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,120
and i've had the privilege to talk with

806
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:10,840
some very credible

807
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,120
uh people who have been either abducted

808
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,320
uh or invited onto

809
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,720
et ships and several of them were

810
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,880
offered the opportunity because of the

811
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:25,120
relationship that was developed to be

812
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,559
shown the drive on the ship and that's

813
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,159
what we uh

814
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,919
illustrate with the computer graphics

815
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,320
briefly and thrive also every single one

816
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,720
of them has repeated this as

817
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:38,880
the story about this same

818
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:41,600
double taurus rainbow dynamic that not

819
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,120
only propels the ship but it creates an

820
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:47,360
independent gravitational field around

821
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,799
the ship that that protects

822
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,720
anyone who's in it

823
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,440
yeah it is really hard to

824
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:57,679
find a clear narrative when it comes to

825
00:30:03,350 --> 00:29:58,399
the

826
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:03,360
even as far back as nikola tesla people

827
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,679
were talking about he he had credited

828
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:08,000
some of his discoveries with messages

829
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:09,679
from other beings there's a lot of

830
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:12,480
speculation that this this taurus energy

831
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:14,080
is the same kind of thing that helped

832
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,279
build the pyramids and uh i guess where

833
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,120
it gets kind of weird is you've got

834
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,120
abduction stories that are

835
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,640
positive like the ones you're describing

836
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,159
then you've got some that are extremely

837
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:26,799
negative with harnessing or you know

838
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,760
extracting dna and extracting uh you

839
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,520
know messing with their sexual organs to

840
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,840
create hybrids i mean and there's you as

841
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,240
you know there's tons of disinformation

842
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,480
in this realm it's hard to really

843
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,720
know what's true and what's not true but

844
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,640
i find it hard to believe that if

845
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:44,159
they're trying to present us with this

846
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,840
information that it would be so

847
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:49,279
mild i feel like they would do it in a

848
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,480
bolder way

849
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:52,559
do you have any explanation for why it's

850
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,789
you mean from the point of view of

851
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:58,960
extraterrestrial beings right like it's

852
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:01,600
they the the contact seems very subtle

853
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:04,399
in the form of crop circles or you know

854
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:06,399
small scale abductions

855
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:07,360
yes

856
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,840
well um i'm certainly not an expert in

857
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,240
this area but i've been looking into it

858
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:13,919
for quite a while and particularly since

859
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:15,919
thrive i've had the opportunity to speak

860
00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:19,919
to some very knowledgeable uh people and

861
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:21,520
the

862
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,000
species

863
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,440
uh of other beings who are visiting us

864
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,399
you know that there are uh the five most

865
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,600
commonly

866
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:38,640
uh spoken of beings from

867
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,120
people from cultures all over the world

868
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:43,600
are you know the grays and the felines

869
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:47,200
and the reptilians and the

870
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:50,000
mantids and the nordics

871
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:50,799
and

872
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:51,919
uh

873
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,960
they

874
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,880
there are many other species i think as

875
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,760
well

876
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:57,440
jacques valet one of the premier

877
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,080
researchers says that probably 80 or

878
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,840
extraterrestrial contact is simply

879
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:04,559
telepathic it's not actual incarnate

880
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,440
beings in some sort of material ships

881
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:09,919
flying around it's actually simply

882
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,159
beings that are on different frequency

883
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,240
levels who are connecting with with us

884
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,039
in uh our consciousness and that's

885
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,840
becoming more and more common people are

886
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,440
doing this channeling and downloading

887
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,679
this information and so forth all over

888
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,919
the world and there's you know there's a

889
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,360
lot of hosters out there but there's

890
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:29,840
also a lot of people who are

891
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,559
very genuine in this very skilled and

892
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,000
the information that they're bringing

893
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:36,640
through is quite consistent and one of

894
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,440
the things that they talk about is that

895
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,399
these various et species have different

896
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:43,760
agendas

897
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,000
so from our point of view some of them

898
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,480
may feel very benevolent others might

899
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:49,440
feel

900
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,320
even abusive and i asked john mack who

901
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,000
was the the

902
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,640
harvard psychiatrist who kind of

903
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:58,559
literally wrote the book on the

904
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,840
credibility of ufo e.t abductions i

905
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:03,440
asked him i got a chance to meet him

906
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,039
before he

907
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:07,600
was killed recently

908
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:08,480
and

909
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:11,279
i asked him that question are are et's

910
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,000
uh

911
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,320
benevolent since there's obviously way

912
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,240
more advanced than we are

913
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,720
uh in terms of technology so i'm

914
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,600
assuming in in aspects of consciousness

915
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,760
and he said well you don't assume that

916
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:25,519
because he said look how far human

917
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,799
beings are beyond rats in terms of the

918
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:30,799
evolution of our consciousness and then

919
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,720
look how some of us treat them in our

920
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:34,159
laboratories

921
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:35,600
so some of them are here doing

922
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,960
experiments or you know looking to for a

923
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,600
habitable planet or looking to gather

924
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,279
some of the resources that we have on

925
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,600
our planet that they need and there are

926
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:48,080
others who are here to protect us uh

927
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,480
from some of those other species or from

928
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,240
flares from the sun or whatever or from

929
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,559
nuclear weapons there's evidence of all

930
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,640
of the things that that i just mentioned

931
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,039
so i i've come from you know thinking

932
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:01,200
that you know little green men from mars

933
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,480
is a crazy uh notion to recognize and of

934
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,200
course there's intelligent life in this

935
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,200
almost boundless cosmos

936
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,000
uh to realizing that we're actually

937
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,839
probably living pretty much in the star

938
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:15,119
wars bar

939
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:15,919
wow

940
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,079
but but you're right it's quite subtle

941
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:20,000
right now i think for various reasons

942
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:20,879
for

943
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,079
of disclosure as far as as i've been

944
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,079
able to learn there have been

945
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,839
contracts made between the shadow

946
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,399
government and certain e.t species to to

947
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,079
keep things secret for a certain length

948
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,800
of time while that shadow government was

949
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,879
was learning from their technologies and

950
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,639
making certain trades with them and so

951
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:45,040
forth so it's a very complex issue that

952
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:47,760
i think is starting to come out

953
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,079
more and more rapidly now as many

954
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,079
countries i think there's 15 countries

955
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,000
which have actually opened their ufo

956
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,240
files and that recent citizen hearing

957
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:57,599
that took place just a couple of weeks

958
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,640
ago in

959
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,280
uh in washington dc had

960
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,480
fantastic

961
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,960
uh expert testimony that's going to be

962
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,359
turned into a feature-length film that's

963
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:08,800
going to tour in theaters and so forth

964
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,599
so the the time is definitely coming

965
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,400
nice it's very exciting uh all of these

966
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,720
people are kind of um finding new ways

967
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:18,960
of saying it because i feel like for so

968
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,880
long our cultural belief systems about

969
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,119
this topic prevented us from ever

970
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,520
exploring it honestly and it was

971
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:29,280
everybody who was into this was

972
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,720
dismissed as being crazy or

973
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,000
some kind of you know all these

974
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:36,240
different terms that television used to

975
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:37,440
try to

976
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,280
make people feel paranoid about what

977
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,200
they had experienced

978
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,400
but it has gone by so many names i i

979
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,640
think about um you're talking about the

980
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,920
possibility that there's all these

981
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:50,960
different alien humanoids with different

982
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:54,960
agendas communing with people and

983
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,280
how similar that is in my mind to when

984
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,599
you get inspiration when you have a new

985
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,800
idea

986
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,560
it's like you suddenly come upon a

987
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,640
thought where did that come from when

988
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,640
they wrote like the odyssey and iliad

989
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,920
i've talked about this in previous

990
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:10,400
episodes but they talked about in in

991
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,079
those times there's a consciousness that

992
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:13,760
people kind of felt like the gods were

993
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,480
communing with them you could

994
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:19,200
by different you know acts just by

995
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:20,800
drinking too much you commune with

996
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,280
certain uh intelligences you become

997
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,599
different you take on changes is because

998
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,359
you're almost like channeling is tied

999
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,520
into this as well but yeah there's so

1000
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,000
many different um

1001
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,880
kind of like i don't know it it's

1002
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,480
we're trying to explain what this

1003
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:38,640
phenomena is but science has prevented

1004
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,280
us from exploring it for so long that it

1005
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,839
everything immediately gets dismissed is

1006
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,520
like oh here we go again with this

1007
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:46,880
nonsense but

1008
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,520
really it's it's we're encroaching upon

1009
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,359
it it's coming from every direction and

1010
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,440
it's almost like it's going to overgrow

1011
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:55,040
these belief systems are going to have

1012
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,160
to decay

1013
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,079
because they no longer like serve us as

1014
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:02,950
same agenda we were talking about with

1015
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,760
the suppression of ufo information and

1016
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,920
free energy and and that type of thing

1017
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:09,520
because i believe that the ultimate

1018
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,400
suppression is of people's consciousness

1019
00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:15,119
because if people are

1020
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,839
if children are supported in

1021
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,880
being

1022
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,960
healthy critical thinkers

1023
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,640
then they're going to be questioning the

1024
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,560
whole notion of authority

1025
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,040
uh and our culture is set up so that

1026
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,040
through the state-run schools and

1027
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:31,119
through the the churches basically

1028
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,760
people are indoctrinated from a very

1029
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,440
young age virtually every day of the

1030
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,200
week you know six days of the week for a

1031
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,480
lot of people

1032
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,079
many hours a day

1033
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,000
into believing in things that they might

1034
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,400
not otherwise believe in and the

1035
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:46,800
fundamental tenet of both the church and

1036
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,560
the uh most churches uh and of

1037
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,640
the government is that

1038
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,160
uh you're not whole and sufficient and

1039
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,079
therefore we're going to have authority

1040
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,920
over you we're going to take care of you

1041
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,520
but we're going to also have to tell you

1042
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,680
what you need to believe uh we're going

1043
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,040
to tell you what's true and we're going

1044
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:07,040
to tell you what you can and can't do

1045
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,160
and we're going to take some of your

1046
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:09,920
stuff basically what you know whenever

1047
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,359
we want and as people are waking up and

1048
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,960
you know kimberly and i've had the

1049
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:17,040
privilege to be traveling to you know

1050
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,960
over 30 cities in the last year

1051
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,280
with the thrive movie and with solutions

1052
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:25,920
uh workshops and so forth and everywhere

1053
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:29,200
we go it's packed houses of people who

1054
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,760
get it uh you know because they have you

1055
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,280
know watched thrive or they've listened

1056
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,040
to shows like yours you know other

1057
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,960
independent sources of media and they're

1058
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,960
doing their own thinking and they're

1059
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,720
waking up and they've been going through

1060
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,800
that challenge of

1061
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,960
wow this is tough information i'm not

1062
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:47,040
sure i want to know this but maybe i

1063
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,560
should and they're talking with their

1064
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:50,160
friends and then some of their friends

1065
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:52,000
might you know start to reject them

1066
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,359
because they're talking about stuff

1067
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,200
that's been you know insulted and

1068
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:57,599
demeaned in our in our culture so it's a

1069
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,079
real challenge to wake up but we are

1070
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,079
really heartened by the fact that

1071
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:03,520
millions and millions of people are

1072
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,640
waking up

1073
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,440
across the planet and as they wake up

1074
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,119
they want to take action

1075
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,119
so that's where the the

1076
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:14,800
uh the whole conspiracy movement

1077
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,359
that you're so familiar with has really

1078
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,000
uh kind of tilled the soil

1079
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,280
so that the seeds of real solutions

1080
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:25,520
could find fertile ground and then

1081
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,880
really grow

1082
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,320
and that's what what i'm going to be

1083
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,280
talking about at the conspiracy con

1084
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:34,960
is that the thrive movement is intended

1085
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:35,760
to

1086
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,200
conspiracy or conspiracies and so we're

1087
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,920
literally looking to turn that turn the

1088
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,920
conspiracy inside out the global

1089
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,320
domination agenda and if you took a

1090
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,440
glove if you took a left-handed glove

1091
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,000
and you turned it inside out

1092
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,480
you you'd look at it and you'd see a

1093
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:58,480
right-handed glove yeah because it's

1094
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,000
literally reversed itself and we're in a

1095
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,640
sense doing the same thing because in my

1096
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,560
decades of research i

1097
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:08,160
came to realize

1098
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,960
that

1099
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,480
despite what people

1100
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,040
think or want to believe uh the people

1101
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,119
running the agenda are not stupid or

1102
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,920
incompetent they are uh

1103
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,560
very smart they're really shrewd they're

1104
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,800
also really nasty but they're very

1105
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,440
competent in trying to accomplish their

1106
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,520
agenda what they're lacking is the

1107
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:29,599
wisdom the heart the connection to the

1108
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,320
life force the ability to love and tell

1109
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,920
the truth and all that kind of stuff so

1110
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,160
they're at a significant disadvantage

1111
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:38,560
ultimately but interimly they've conned

1112
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,320
the whole planet into giving them power

1113
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,040
over money uh and military and media and

1114
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,880
all the rest of it so they're in a

1115
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,280
tremendous position of control and it's

1116
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,520
well documented that they have set out

1117
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:51,359
to to take over

1118
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,079
all of the 12 sectors that we identify

1119
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,079
and that's education and media and

1120
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,640
science and arts and economics and

1121
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,800
governance and though really the whole

1122
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,680
picture

1123
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,640
and they

1124
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,599
they are almost done with that task so

1125
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,280
what we're

1126
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,200
wanting to offer through the thrive

1127
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:10,880
movement and the just the tools and

1128
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:13,760
information that we make available

1129
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:16,160
is the opportunity to be just as

1130
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:19,599
organized to really approach all 12

1131
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,400
sectors but to approach it with the goal

1132
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,000
of liberation

1133
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,560
rather than domination and to align it

1134
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,800
with the life force rather than go

1135
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:31,200
against the life force and to have the

1136
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,240
movement be really transparent rather

1137
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:37,119
than secret society you know covert uh

1138
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,400
hidden agendas and people are responding

1139
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,920
so enthusiastically to that opportunity

1140
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:45,359
and i'll say one more thing about that

1141
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:46,240
which is

1142
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,040
uh

1143
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:49,760
it's not just an idea as we were making

1144
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:52,000
thrive we had actually worked with

1145
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,760
uh barbara mark's hubbard and a number

1146
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:57,680
of other uh

1147
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:00,000
organizations and uh kind of thought

1148
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,520
leaders for

1149
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,599
over a decade

1150
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:06,000
in developing this 12 sector model

1151
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:07,040
and

1152
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,040
cruz in 2007 these planes started coming

1153
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:14,800
out of monterey which is the neighboring

1154
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:17,599
county uh and droning over our heads at

1155
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,359
night and dropping unknown chemicals

1156
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,680
over the entire county

1157
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:25,200
and uh

1158
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,079
they

1159
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,560
announced in the news that you know this

1160
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,400
was a very safe thing it was just a

1161
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,560
synthetic pheromone you know it was a

1162
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,040
scent just to confuse a certain moth

1163
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,800
that was going to be devastating

1164
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,880
california agriculture of course and it

1165
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,720
was perfectly safe except we it would

1166
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,240
probably be a good idea to stay indoors

1167
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:44,640
include and close your

1168
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,760
window wow uh so of course we got very

1169
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,640
suspicious of this and uh babies started

1170
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,800
getting sick and birds started uh

1171
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:55,040
dropping out of the sky bees were dying

1172
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,920
by the uh by the masses fish were

1173
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,920
washing up on the shores of the streams

1174
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,680
and the oceans nearby

1175
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,000
so uh people were kind of running around

1176
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,680
a lot of us were running around kind of

1177
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:08,079
in a panic about this this whole thing

1178
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,280
and it we weren't really being effective

1179
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,400
so finally

1180
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:14,160
kimberly bless her heart said why don't

1181
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,680
we gather

1182
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,760
some of the local activist leaders in

1183
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,760
our living room and show them

1184
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,599
uh this sector model and see if that

1185
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,920
would help get organized so

1186
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,560
a few few days later we had 30 people in

1187
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,319
our living room we showed them this

1188
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,960
sector model and they loved it so three

1189
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:32,800
nights after that we had a town hall

1190
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,520
meeting in santa cruz where 300 people

1191
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:38,079
showed up and uh we had some informative

1192
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,280
lectures

1193
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:41,599
from some experts on toxic sprays and so

1194
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,640
forth and then we had 12 sign up tables

1195
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,560
so the lawyers could go sign up if they

1196
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,000
wanted to do something about this the

1197
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,599
lawyers could sign up at the justice

1198
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,760
table and the artists at the arts table

1199
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,680
the media people you know reporters

1200
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,280
investigators and so forth could sign up

1201
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,359
at the the media table and we had

1202
00:44:02,390 --> 00:43:59,839
scientists and environmentalists uh and

1203
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,400
so we formed teams and

1204
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,800
uh i was on the economics team because

1205
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,160
i've had a lot of experience of

1206
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,480
following the money and

1207
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,280
so anyway that day was when

1208
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,000
random well-meaning but ineffective

1209
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:17,280
activism turned into like a laser beam

1210
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,960
of effectiveness and within a few weeks

1211
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,800
i had followed the money back to the

1212
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:24,800
source and unfortunately it was just

1213
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,680
what i suspected it was a a personal ear

1214
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:30,000
mark from george bush junior

1215
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,440
um to

1216
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,920
appropriate up to a billion dollars from

1217
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,000
homeland security run it through the

1218
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,560
usda which is totally you know in bed

1219
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,359
with monsanto and gets uh royalties on

1220
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,680
gmo foods and so forth then that would

1221
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,280
go through the california department of

1222
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,800
food and agriculture and then they would

1223
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,720
spray us with this stuff well the first

1224
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:51,280
thing we did was uh we did a petition

1225
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:54,800
and got governor schwarzenegger to

1226
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,200
uh stop the spray uh

1227
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,760
you know interimly and make them tell us

1228
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,760
what was in it because they had refused

1229
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:02,640
to

1230
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,839
well it turned out there were 10

1231
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:06,079
chemicals and six of them were toxic

1232
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:07,200
there were

1233
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,400
mutagens which alter your genes uh and

1234
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,000
there were endocrine disruptors which

1235
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,400
can render you infertile so it's exactly

1236
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,480
the kind of dumbing down making sick

1237
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,880
depopulation agenda that i had been

1238
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,880
really afraid of but not you know

1239
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,640
willing to speak publicly about because

1240
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,920
people hadn't seen thrive and most

1241
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,720
people would have thought i was

1242
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,280
completely nuts anyway the long and

1243
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,839
short of it is that our scientists went

1244
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,680
to new zealand where they had a previous

1245
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,440
incident environmentalists started

1246
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,599
collecting data the doctors were were

1247
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,520
checking out people's health issues and

1248
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,599
so forth and

1249
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:44,160
um the mothers got involved in in

1250
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,440
protests and

1251
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,280
we had a protest that took over the

1252
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:49,680
golden gate bridge one day

1253
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,560
and

1254
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,599
uh within six months

1255
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:55,920
we had entirely stopped the program we

1256
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,000
had won one lawsuit and another big one

1257
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,599
was pending

1258
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,480
and

1259
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,560
uh at that time schwarzenegger pulled

1260
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,400
out his support for the

1261
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,800
uh for the spraying plan and uh and

1262
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,119
ultimately they declared a moratorium on

1263
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,560
the spring and

1264
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,720
a billion dollar program direct from the

1265
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,880
president and homeland security was

1266
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:17,440
stopped with volunteer activity and

1267
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,119
probably about thirty to forty thousand

1268
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:22,560
dollars uh in funding so it's a really

1269
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,240
clear example of how

1270
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:29,440
important it is for us to be organized

1271
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:32,480
in fact our kind of uh main trophy for

1272
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,280
this besides you know clean skies

1273
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,280
uh was that we through a freedom of

1274
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:39,359
information act request we got some

1275
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,800
internal emails from the cdfa and one of

1276
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,640
them said

1277
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,560
you know we're kind of shocked we were

1278
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,560
expecting some resistance from santa

1279
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,560
cruz but we had no idea they'd be so

1280
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,160
well organized

1281
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,880
wow so that's the same uh strategy now

1282
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,359
that we're looking to teach to you know

1283
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:59,119
budding solution areas all over the

1284
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,359
world and probably

1285
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,200
in late summer or early fall we're going

1286
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,319
to be launching a global campaign

1287
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,640
to teach people over the internet how to

1288
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,560
use this model and we're going to use

1289
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,640
chemtrails as the example because

1290
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,400
basically chemtrails is the same issue

1291
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,480
it's got the same sort of toxins in it

1292
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,119
but instead of being done over you know

1293
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,280
11 counties and 7 million people in

1294
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,119
northern california it's being done

1295
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:26,079
around the entire globe from 30 000 feet

1296
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,000
instead of you know a thousand feet but

1297
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,720
it's really the the same type of agenda

1298
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,960
and we can stop that issue in that same

1299
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:35,680
way but more importantly these types of

1300
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:39,680
strategies can be used uh in any issue

1301
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:42,319
and on our solutions hub

1302
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:44,560
which we launched on our website uh over

1303
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,079
six months ago there are now over 750

1304
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:49,839
groups have signed up

1305
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:52,720
uh from around the world and uh they're

1306
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:56,720
working on over 120 different issues

1307
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,400
and uh in 90 different countries and now

1308
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,240
through our website they're beginning to

1309
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:04,319
connect with each other and share best

1310
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,839
practices so if somebody's done a

1311
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,400
lawsuit they can share that paperwork if

1312
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,160
somebody's done a petition or they've

1313
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,160
got flyers or artwork or health

1314
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,000
information or whatever everybody

1315
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,920
doesn't have to be recreating the same

1316
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,920
wheel people can just learn from each

1317
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:20,240
other and then also tie together through

1318
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:21,440
all of these

1319
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:23,599
sectors throughout the world

1320
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,040
wow man yeah i mean that's pretty

1321
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:27,359
inspiring that story uh you and you make

1322
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:30,000
some excellent points you know on on one

1323
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,440
hand i get super frustrated that

1324
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,280
we're being manipulated meanwhile we're

1325
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,280
having a debate if it's even going on

1326
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:38,880
but then on the other hand you can get

1327
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,440
lost in just analyzing the manipulation

1328
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,280
and just identifying it at deeper and

1329
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,960
deeper levels and

1330
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,559
you know like you said that's not really

1331
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:48,880
getting anyone anywhere either so it was

1332
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,000
really important to turn it into

1333
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,920
something solutions based

1334
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:54,480
which you know the thrive movement seems

1335
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,800
to be the way to go i mean i know when i

1336
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,480
was involved in the occupy movement they

1337
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,400
had a similar setup in terms of

1338
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,960
different groups you know media law

1339
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,119
outreach and

1340
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,800
the problem there is that it just seemed

1341
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,280
paralyzed by a lack of leadership

1342
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,200
because everyone is so used to being

1343
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,119
told what to do here's a bunch of

1344
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,880
willing people standing around saying if

1345
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,000
someone would just tell me what to do

1346
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,559
i'll go do it but uh you know it's just

1347
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,559
paralyzed by an action

1348
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:22,240
and of course one of the things one of

1349
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:25,440
the approaches that we're taking is uh

1350
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:29,520
not to try to to create and grow and

1351
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,839
manage some big global organization

1352
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,359
that's centrally controlled that's

1353
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,839
exactly you know the one of the major

1354
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:36,960
problems right

1355
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:39,040
so from from the get-go we have wanted

1356
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:40,240
to

1357
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:43,520
empower self-creating movements so we're

1358
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:45,599
not out there telling anybody what to do

1359
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,800
and if people want to join uh into our

1360
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:50,880
network they only need to agree to two

1361
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,480
things one is if they're using sectors

1362
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,119
we we ask that they use the same sector

1363
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,520
names because that allows us to

1364
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,800
coordinate very powerfully uh worldwide

1365
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,040
and secondly that their solutions not

1366
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,599
include any violations

1367
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,000
uh so that it it's not a matter of

1368
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,640
creating some new tax or going out with

1369
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,200
you know a a militia to force people to

1370
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,520
do something you know using force to

1371
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,240
protect uh individual rights might be

1372
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,839
necessary at

1373
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,319
points and i i totally support that if

1374
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,640
it's needed but using force to tell

1375
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:28,800
anyone what to do or to take their money

1376
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:31,839
against their will is absolutely uh the

1377
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,480
problem that's taken our civilization to

1378
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,800
the brink of total self-destruction so i

1379
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:38,480
encourage people if you're interested go

1380
00:50:40,349 --> 00:50:39,599
browse

1381
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,359
go to

1382
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,000
thrivemovement.com

1383
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,960
and then go to the get involved section

1384
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,400
and you'll see

1385
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,839
in that section there's something called

1386
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,319
engage in solutions and when you go to

1387
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,440
that page you'll be able to

1388
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,440
to see the different groups from all

1389
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,680
over the world you can search by zip

1390
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,720
code or by sector or by issue and find

1391
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,319
the people who are already working on

1392
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,400
what you want to work on and then see do

1393
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,760
you want to learn from them do you have

1394
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,599
things to share with them do you want to

1395
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,200
join one of those groups do you want to

1396
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:11,280
start your own group

1397
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,559
it's really about empowering people to

1398
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:17,119
self-create not telling anyone what to

1399
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,400
do

1400
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,240
that's awesome i mean i love that

1401
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,079
approach i mean and it's something i've

1402
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:24,160
considered doing and if we could build

1403
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,599
free energy devices it would be a lot

1404
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,599
easier but have you ever considered look

1405
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,599
saying you know look i'm not getting any

1406
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,520
younger the system is too established

1407
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,440
and powerful to overcome quickly so

1408
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,960
we're going to buy a big plot of land

1409
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,800
and some tropical place without much of

1410
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,000
a government we're going to build some

1411
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:40,079
free energy devices and organic gardens

1412
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,000
and build a perfect free society and

1413
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:43,920
then just invite more people until it

1414
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:46,000
expands to a size that can't be shut

1415
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,200
down

1416
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:48,559
have you ever considered something like

1417
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:51,680
that no absolutely um it's uh i think

1418
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:54,079
it's a great idea because it starts

1419
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:55,040
building

1420
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,559
the communities

1421
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:57,920
and the

1422
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,880
the the

1423
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,440
uh alternative whole systems approaches

1424
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,160
to energy and to community and to food

1425
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,839
and all that kind of stuff it's an

1426
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:10,480
embodiment of the kinds of approaches

1427
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,760
that we need to have already functioning

1428
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,920
and growing when the old systems

1429
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,680
collapse because the old systems are

1430
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,800
collapsing

1431
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:20,640
very dramatically

1432
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:23,280
and it's not just incompetence they the

1433
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:24,960
powers that be as far as i can tell they

1434
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,280
want the economy to collapse uh they

1435
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:29,280
want the food systems to collapse you

1436
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,640
know they would they want the

1437
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,240
independence of the internet to collapse

1438
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:34,319
and so forth so

1439
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:36,079
i i'm not under the illusion that

1440
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:37,760
there's anywhere in the world where you

1441
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,640
can really go and hide a very large

1442
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,720
community that is running on free energy

1443
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,280
and and liberty principles

1444
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,200
but at the same time

1445
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:49,599
this is the right time to be creating

1446
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,079
them and i think that very soon there

1447
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:53,760
will be so many of them that they can't

1448
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,800
be shut down and the old powers are

1449
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:58,480
losing their power

1450
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:02,079
so that i you know the the western uh

1451
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,960
uh

1452
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,359
banking cabal that's been running this

1453
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:08,720
fiat you know federal reserve uh system

1454
00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:12,160
uh is crumbling as we speak either their

1455
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:13,839
banks are hundreds of trillions of

1456
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,720
dollars in debt um and they uh

1457
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:21,359
they're in in debt uh to

1458
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,880
not only

1459
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,119
um other

1460
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:28,000
corporations individuals and all of that

1461
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,760
but also to

1462
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,599
asian countries who've been loaning most

1463
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,240
of the money to make that possible and

1464
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:37,520
are continuing to on an ongoing basis so

1465
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:40,880
fortunately my sources tell me that

1466
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:44,079
there are very large and well-funded

1467
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,680
groups in china and japan and indonesia

1468
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:50,800
the philippines and so forth who are

1469
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:53,680
coming closer and closer to

1470
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:56,960
sharing some vast wealth with the world

1471
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,920
in very humanitarian ways and using the

1472
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:01,599
leverage that they've got through the

1473
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:03,680
gold that they own through the the

1474
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,680
nuclear weapons that they have and the

1475
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,319
you know the million man armies to to

1476
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,480
protect themselves from the

1477
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,800
scourge of the kind of imperialist

1478
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:14,319
invasions that have been going on over

1479
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,240
the you know the last 50 years um

1480
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:20,160
and they are

1481
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,920
interested i'm being told in on not only

1482
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,040
converting

1483
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,079
the world to asset-backed economies

1484
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,920
which are going to be way better than

1485
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:31,680
these fiat currencies which put all the

1486
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,079
power in the hands of a few but they're

1487
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,040
also interested in using their wealth

1488
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,400
to fund uh the best humanitarian

1489
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:42,079
projects that they can find around the

1490
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:44,800
planet now i've been hearing this from

1491
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:45,680
uh

1492
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,119
private sources for quite a while and

1493
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,680
now i'm beginning to see things come out

1494
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,760
even in the public media

1495
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:58,960
that are showing evidence of this

1496
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:01,280
there's a woman who used to be a general

1497
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,160
counsel to the world bank a woman named

1498
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,960
karen judes who just came out a few days

1499
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:08,400
ago um

1500
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,680
uh

1501
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,760
announcing this that there are banks all

1502
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,119
over the world that are already in the

1503
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:15,839
process of converting to

1504
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:18,160
uh not only using precious metals as

1505
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:21,040
currency but using them as the backing

1506
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:24,720
of a paper currency and i think this is

1507
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,160
getting to the level now where it's

1508
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,839
unstoppable so this is going to be a

1509
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:29,680
dynamic transition

1510
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,760
um but just what you said i think the

1511
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,920
more people are building their own

1512
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,359
community just like the free state

1513
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,599
project in new hampshire and gold's

1514
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,839
gulch down in chile and now you know

1515
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:41,839
there's they're emerging all over the

1516
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,040
place and these are the seeds of

1517
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,200
the culture literally of thrive the

1518
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,520
thriving cultures of the future based on

1519
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,960
the principles of integrity and

1520
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,319
wholeness

1521
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,559
yeah let's on the subject of banking

1522
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,920
because that's something that's a huge

1523
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,440
huge thing for me i mean the venus

1524
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,119
project and the zeitgeist movements that

1525
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,799
pretty much convinced me that to really

1526
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,720
weed out greed corruption and power

1527
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:05,040
struggles we have to overcome any

1528
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:07,040
monetary system which of course has its

1529
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:08,480
own challenges but

1530
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,359
uh

1531
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:10,799
and of course you want to do away with a

1532
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:12,559
fractional reserve system but in your

1533
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,520
perfect world how is a monetary system

1534
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:17,200
being used i mean how can you protect

1535
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,240
its integrity in the long run

1536
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,960
well it's a really important point um

1537
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:24,000
and

1538
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,799
some of the other people from the

1539
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,559
zeitgeist movement because

1540
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:32,799
i i really admire so much of what

1541
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,760
they've done

1542
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:35,599
it's just been a huge wake-up call to

1543
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,240
the planet the that series of of movies

1544
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:40,880
uh and the movement uh it turns out that

1545
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,520
this is one area they uh getting rid of

1546
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,440
money that i am not in alignment with

1547
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:47,680
their uh approach

1548
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:48,640
because

1549
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:51,760
i think that the the problem is not

1550
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,040
money the problem is dishonest money

1551
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,520
and i you know i've invited some of them

1552
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,160
who whom i've talked to recently to just

1553
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,160
start using no money anytime they want

1554
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,240
and see how it goes right

1555
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:06,640
so if you need a

1556
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,680
uh a program for your computer

1557
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:11,680
uh or a new computer

1558
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,000
and you're living in the the fields of

1559
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:16,079
kansas and you what you've got is a lot

1560
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:17,839
of corn and cows

1561
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:21,040
uh and you try to affect that trade with

1562
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,799
someone from somewhere else on the

1563
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,400
planet who happens to have made just the

1564
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,880
program or the hardware that you need

1565
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,119
uh good luck you know in accomplishing

1566
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,359
that there's a lot of inconveniences and

1567
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,440
i we don't want to throw the baby out

1568
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:36,079
with the bath water the a real uh an

1569
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,839
honest monetary system is genuinely a an

1570
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,280
honest

1571
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:43,760
medium of exchange so instead of having

1572
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:46,720
to trade cows for software programs you

1573
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,760
can actually trade

1574
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,520
you know some sort of currency or you

1575
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,839
can trade some sort of credits or you

1576
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,440
can trade bitcoins or whatever you want

1577
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,520
to call it you can you know trade puka

1578
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:59,760
shells but at least you've got some sort

1579
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:02,079
of medium that's mutually recognized

1580
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:03,520
that makes it a heck of a lot more

1581
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,640
convenient

1582
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:06,559
so what i asked the people from the

1583
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,760
zeitgeist movement is

1584
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:12,880
this whole notion of moving beyond money

1585
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,160
is it voluntary or mandatory because if

1586
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,400
it's mandatory and i have real concerns

1587
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:19,839
about that because they talk about these

1588
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:22,240
re-education camps and and so forth well

1589
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,599
you know that's what the nazis talked

1590
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,760
about that's what the u.s government did

1591
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:27,839
to the japanese and so forth that's

1592
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,960
scary stuff to to me and fortunately

1593
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,799
they have assured me some of them

1594
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,359
recently that know all of that and the

1595
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:37,440
you know circular city planning and all

1596
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,520
that stuff that would all be voluntary

1597
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,119
it would just be the technical

1598
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,680
facilitation of progress and i said

1599
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,079
great then i'm all for it but the key

1600
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,359
word for me always is voluntary

1601
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:51,359
if if somebody's trying to make me do

1602
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,880
something other than stop hurting

1603
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:55,280
someone else or or taking their stuff

1604
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:57,119
then we've got the seeds of tyranny

1605
00:59:02,789 --> 00:58:58,480
which have led us to the brink of

1606
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,799
destruction so i'm i'm excited about

1607
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,440
coordinating with movements like

1608
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,599
the thrive movement because obviously

1609
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,040
there's tremendous potential for

1610
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,280
organization in the alignment of

1611
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,359
pre-existing groups so one of the things

1612
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:15,359
we're working on with the solutions hub

1613
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,079
is

1614
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:18,559
developing the protocol where groups can

1615
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:21,599
interact uh and share information

1616
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:24,240
without ever having to give up their own

1617
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,280
moral philosophy or the trust of their

1618
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,880
own uh

1619
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,000
internet

1620
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,400
network because anyone who has a large

1621
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,640
following has developed that because

1622
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:37,520
people are aligned with their philosophy

1623
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:40,079
and they trust their behavior so nobody

1624
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:42,160
wants to give that up

1625
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,240
and so you don't want to be forced to

1626
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,079
share information that you don't believe

1627
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,839
in so one of the things that we're doing

1628
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:49,599
is encouraging groups

1629
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:52,960
to coordinate in networks but then have

1630
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,520
the coordinators of the groups be able

1631
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:58,319
to gate any particular information that

1632
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:01,200
gets sent out so if if somebody sends me

1633
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:02,720
something about they've got this

1634
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,640
wonderful idea for a solution and all

1635
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,559
it'll take is another you know trillion

1636
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,400
dollars in taxes that's now going to be

1637
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,559
laid on the backs involuntarily of the

1638
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,480
people well i don't have any interest in

1639
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:14,079
sending that out to my group and i would

1640
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:16,000
let them know that but that doesn't mean

1641
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:18,079
that i couldn't coordinate with them

1642
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:21,040
on other projects in our three-stage

1643
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,799
solution strategy that we lay out

1644
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,400
briefly in the movie but in much more

1645
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,880
depth on the website

1646
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,640
there are really three tracks and the

1647
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,839
first track

1648
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,680
honors the best of the progressive

1649
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:33,839
movement which is basically using other

1650
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,839
people's money to be compassionate you

1651
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,200
know to take care of people who've been

1652
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:39,760
most uh screwed over by the system and

1653
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,319
to provide subsidies to go back to

1654
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,040
organic uh farming and to

1655
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,200
uh you know to provide health care to

1656
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,119
those who are so damaged that they are

1657
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,200
not uh in a place of prosperity where

1658
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,119
they can afford it but that's all a

1659
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,680
transition stage and the money doesn't

1660
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,640
come from creating new theft from of

1661
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:01,520
people's wages it comes from money that

1662
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:04,799
is now being spent on waging war and i

1663
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:07,680
you know paying uh unnecessary interest

1664
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:10,240
to a corrupt federal reserve there's

1665
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,960
enough money in doing just the reduction

1666
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:14,640
of those two things

1667
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:20,400
to not only restore uh health prosperity

1668
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:23,760
uh and the the environment in the united

1669
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:26,240
states but literally all over the world

1670
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:29,839
so that's phase one meanwhile phase two

1671
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,720
or track two is already in process and

1672
01:01:37,829 --> 01:01:34,799
that's the shrinking down

1673
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,839
of this involuntary government to just

1674
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:39,920
the protection of human rights and the

1675
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:41,839
commons so the government isn't out

1676
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:44,400
there telling you what you have to do

1677
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,280
uh their only role is to protect you

1678
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:49,599
from being violated and to protect the

1679
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,079
wholeness of ecosystems in the same way

1680
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:54,240
and then finally i believe that there

1681
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:56,799
will be so much success and prosperity

1682
01:02:02,230 --> 01:01:59,119
and security and and freedom

1683
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:02,240
as those two phases are going along that

1684
01:02:05,950 --> 01:02:04,319
people will finally realize that there

1685
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:05,960
are independent

1686
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:08,559
non-authoritarian ways to solve all of

1687
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:10,000
these problems and handle all the

1688
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:12,079
different systems and so forth such that

1689
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:15,280
we'll end up growing beyond uh any need

1690
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:18,160
for involuntary taxation or involuntary

1691
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:21,200
authoritarian government

1692
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:23,200
yeah i'm really interested in these

1693
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:26,400
areas that we have to just by force we

1694
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,319
have to play by these rules we have to

1695
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:29,839
go along with it you got to pay your

1696
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:32,640
taxes and you have to do everything that

1697
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,640
they're telling you to do it's all

1698
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,480
because we feel like

1699
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,480
we're on board it's kind of like you're

1700
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:40,799
on board the uss america it's like hey

1701
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,680
we're all on board the same ship but

1702
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:45,520
certain guys are in charge of the ship

1703
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:47,599
and certain guys own the ship but

1704
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:49,760
because you're on this ship you have to

1705
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,920
play by our rules otherwise we're

1706
01:02:55,030 --> 01:02:53,119
kicking you off and you're basically

1707
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:55,040
going to drown because like if you're if

1708
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:56,559
you're cut off that's part of what the

1709
01:03:01,910 --> 01:02:59,359
system does to people is just says

1710
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:01,920
well if you can't make it then you're

1711
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:04,000
the problem and it's your fault and

1712
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,599
you're just a criminal and now we'll

1713
01:03:09,030 --> 01:03:07,760
just apply a label and say well we don't

1714
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:09,040
really have to deal with these this

1715
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:11,040
whole class of people and we'll just

1716
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,799
call them uh you know these these are

1717
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,319
the guys that

1718
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,880
made their own problems but really it's

1719
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,880
that the government has no systems

1720
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,720
approach for actually care

1721
01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:22,480
caretaking for anybody

1722
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:24,799
or for the environment or for

1723
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,599
our happiness is just totally left out

1724
01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:29,520
nobody even addresses the fact that

1725
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:31,119
nobody's happy and we all have to

1726
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:32,960
self-medicate to deal with the way

1727
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,240
things are

1728
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,640
and but how do we get to honesty how do

1729
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:38,480
we

1730
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:41,839
moment's rest

1731
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,079
so many people are so busy like when do

1732
01:03:48,549 --> 01:03:46,799
you get the time to be contemplative to

1733
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:48,559
relax to

1734
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,640
express how you're honestly frustrated

1735
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,319
with the way the world is

1736
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,240
yes and that situation that you're

1737
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,640
describing as you know is no accident if

1738
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,559
you want to control people you know you

1739
01:04:01,589 --> 01:04:00,240
dumb them down you keep them sick you

1740
01:04:03,029 --> 01:04:01,599
you keep them in debt you keep them

1741
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:03,039
afraid and confused and they're going to

1742
01:04:06,069 --> 01:04:04,880
be easier to control but you're not

1743
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:06,079
going to have a thriving world and

1744
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:06,960
ultimately you're going to have a

1745
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:09,039
revolution and hopefully it can be a

1746
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,319
peaceful

1747
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:12,720
revolution but really that's the

1748
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,359
opportunity that we have now to move

1749
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,000
beyond this whole illusion that anyone

1750
01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:20,559
should have authority uh to coerce

1751
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,640
anyone else uh

1752
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,480
and to use

1753
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,039
violence to initiate force for anything

1754
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:29,920
other than uh self-protection or or the

1755
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:33,119
protection of the environment so i i

1756
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,720
believe that that's the most important

1757
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:36,960
conversation on the on the planet right

1758
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:38,799
now it's the one i'm especially

1759
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,920
dedicated to being involved in uh the

1760
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:44,000
rest of my life you know along with the

1761
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:47,440
specific solutions and the free energy

1762
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,839
and making people aware of the the

1763
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:51,920
predicament that we're in ultimately

1764
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:54,000
since i think all of the solutions are

1765
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:55,200
based on

1766
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,200
aligning with the torus which is

1767
01:05:01,670 --> 01:04:59,520
honoring wholeness which is honoring the

1768
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:01,680
wholeness of human beings therefore

1769
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,240
freedom i really think all the solutions

1770
01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:06,720
are based on that so you know as you

1771
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:08,319
mentioned i have the opportunity to

1772
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:12,000
speak at the conspiracy con uh coming up

1773
01:05:16,470 --> 01:05:13,599
uh next weekend

1774
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:16,480
and i i'll be there on saturday i mean

1775
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,400
sunday i'll be there all weekend but

1776
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:20,160
i'll be speaking on sunday afternoon and

1777
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,319
then participating in the speaker's

1778
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,480
panel i think it's the last event on

1779
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:26,720
sunday evening so i'll be there if

1780
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:27,920
people want to come and you know hear

1781
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:31,280
that are my talk and and involve

1782
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,359
themselves in the question and answer

1783
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:34,960
but also i'll have a

1784
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,359
booth where we can just chat about these

1785
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:39,760
kinds of issues because i've been very

1786
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:42,960
informed and supported and

1787
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:45,359
inspired by the whole conspiracy

1788
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,720
movement

1789
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,960
and i think it's laid the groundwork

1790
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,400
where now we can take all that

1791
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:52,799
information and as i mentioned turn it

1792
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:55,839
inside out and move on together

1793
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:58,000
towards these solutions you know learn

1794
01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,760
how to have these conversations really

1795
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:02,079
effectively with people without losing

1796
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:03,680
our friendships i'll be talking about

1797
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:06,880
that in in my talk there uh how to have

1798
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,720
these difficult conversations about

1799
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:11,280
these strange topics with people without

1800
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:12,799
you know totally turning them off in

1801
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:14,799
fact you know getting on the same page

1802
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:18,559
and having them uh as allies so i invite

1803
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,799
people to to come to the conference uh

1804
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:23,680
and stop by and say hello if you can i'm

1805
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:25,359
gonna need to get to leave in just a

1806
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:26,559
couple of minutes

1807
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,119
so i want to thank you guys for having

1808
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,119
me on your show i really admire what

1809
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:33,760
you're doing i think life that uh

1810
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:36,319
that the lifeblood of the transformation

1811
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:38,799
that's needed is independent media and

1812
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,400
courageous people like yourselves who

1813
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:42,720
are willing to go anywhere in an honest

1814
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:45,359
respectful and commer and uh and on

1815
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:47,920
purpose conversation oh thank you sir i

1816
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,280
appreciate that of course i'm gonna be

1817
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,039
at the conspiracy con as well i'm gonna

1818
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:52,640
be selling some t-shirts and definitely

1819
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:55,520
listening to the speakers uh i made the

1820
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:57,039
point in the last episode talking about

1821
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,559
conspiracy con that

1822
01:07:02,069 --> 01:07:00,480
people really do need to support

1823
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,079
the alternative movement because you

1824
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:04,400
know you see people spending hundreds of

1825
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,880
dollars to go to coachella or hundreds

1826
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,319
of dollars to go to burning man which

1827
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,160
burning man is kind of a little bit more

1828
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:12,799
noble of a cause but um you know i don't

1829
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,160
want to go to these conspiracy

1830
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:15,839
conferences and see them

1831
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,400
see them empty you know or see an older

1832
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:20,640
generation and no no young people coming

1833
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,720
in taking the helm i'm often times i'm

1834
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,319
the youngest person at these lectures

1835
01:07:28,309 --> 01:07:26,400
and you know we got here in san diego we

1836
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,319
have uh comic con coming up which is one

1837
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:30,720
of the biggest events in the country

1838
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:33,839
just so you can be the first one to see

1839
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,480
the new spider-man trailer or the new

1840
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:38,640
you know or you pay money to go into

1841
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:40,960
what's considered a private mall where

1842
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,839
people are just selling batman figurines

1843
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:45,359
you know yeah it's like you're paying

1844
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:49,280
money to get into a a consumerist fest

1845
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,079
and

1846
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:51,839
there's no benefit to that well so spend

1847
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,920
your money come on to the conspiracy con

1848
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,599
better yourself

1849
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:57,200
learn some things buy some of my

1850
01:08:02,309 --> 01:08:00,079
t-shirts you know the important things

1851
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,319
well i'm happy to report that

1852
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,400
people don't need to deny themselves

1853
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:05,760
what they're particularly interested in

1854
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:08,880
but what's happening is uh the these

1855
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:10,720
various interests are starting to

1856
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,599
overlap and synergize kimberly and i

1857
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:15,440
have been invited to and have gone to

1858
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,799
numerous festivals uh to present uh

1859
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:20,799
thrive and discussions around these

1860
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:24,560
topics including burning man um and

1861
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:26,560
what's happened is these festivals have

1862
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:28,719
been very effective in

1863
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,040
uh basically giving people a place to

1864
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:33,359
celebrate a place to learn about

1865
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:36,640
themselves and be creative and

1866
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,239
you know meditate and dance and that

1867
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:40,799
kind of thing so it's raised the energy

1868
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:43,600
and the camaraderie to to a very high

1869
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:44,560
level

1870
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:48,000
um and now what they have have done is

1871
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:50,880
taken that level and really said amongst

1872
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,960
themselves okay we need to take this

1873
01:08:57,669 --> 01:08:55,520
energy into transforming the outside

1874
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:57,679
world as well and that because i was

1875
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,960
surprised frankly that they were

1876
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:00,719
inviting us to all these conferences but

1877
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:03,199
we've been really well received by

1878
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:06,239
very uh you know open-minded bright

1879
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,520
audiences so i'm seeing an integration

1880
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:11,679
going on and i think the same thing is

1881
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:13,440
going to happen with conspiracy con that

1882
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,920
people who have been duped into thinking

1883
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:18,000
that there aren't conspiracies out there

1884
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,400
the evidence is so overwhelming in any

1885
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,239
media even mainstream media now it's

1886
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:23,679
becoming obvious

1887
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,000
that people are starting to show up and

1888
01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:29,040
and validate these conversations uh and

1889
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:30,400
i think more and more people will be

1890
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,400
turning out to hear the experts you know

1891
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:34,640
share their knowledge absolutely well

1892
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,400
hey i'm going to let you go it's been an

1893
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:38,080
excellent talk obviously if people

1894
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,520
haven't seen thrive they should

1895
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,520
definitely check that out and i will say

1896
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,799
it's available for free at

1897
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,400
thrivemovement.com

1898
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,319
and i encourage you to buy the dvds as

1899
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:48,000
well because you can share it then with

1900
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,759
your friends and support the movement

1901
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:52,080
yes and i i was going to say i think one

1902
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,560
fact that really helps your credibility

1903
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,000
is that you've made the movie available

1904
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:58,400
to watch online for free it speaks

1905
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,840
volumes about your integrity because

1906
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:01,280
i've seen a couple documentaries come

1907
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:02,560
out where they make the claim that they

1908
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,920
just want to help people get knowledge

1909
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:05,600
out there meanwhile they're hyping up

1910
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,040
parts of the film to be more than what

1911
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:09,199
they really are charging ten dollars for

1912
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:11,360
a stream stuff like that so really i

1913
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:12,960
think that should be noted and i commend

1914
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,400
you for being so cool about letting

1915
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:16,880
people see your hard work for free

1916
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,360
well thank you very much our number one

1917
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,120
goal was to have as many people benefit

1918
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:23,360
from it as possible uh for the

1919
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:24,880
filmmakers out there i have to

1920
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,440
acknowledge that it was a huge huge hit

1921
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,080
in our revenue uh where we actually had

1922
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,159
to let go of a lot of our staff just to

1923
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,239
keep the movement going because people

1924
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,239
say well people will will donate they'll

1925
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,719
send you you know money anyway and some

1926
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:40,880
people do but we are not in a culture

1927
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:43,760
yet that does that at a level that can

1928
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:47,600
uh can support uh a a piece of art and

1929
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,800
information that was as as expensive as

1930
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:53,440
thrive was to make and the movement is

1931
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:56,080
to sustain so i encourage all of you to

1932
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:58,159
you know support the movement by buying

1933
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:01,600
dvds uh or donating to to helping this

1934
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:03,440
information uh and the strategies and

1935
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,960
tools get out there

1936
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,800
excellent thank you kyle and thank you

1937
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:08,320
greg it's really great having a chance

1938
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:09,679
to converse with you and i hope to see

1939
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,480
you at

1940
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:12,640
uh conspiracy con absolutely we'll talk

1941
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:14,320
to you then thanks again

1942
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:16,560
okay bye-bye all right take care

1943
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,320
well there it is kyle that was pretty

1944
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:19,679
good how'd you feel about that little

1945
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,280
chat there

1946
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:23,440
it was good i really liked the topics

1947
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:26,560
that we touched on and uh i really felt

1948
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,480
there was a connectedness there was uh

1949
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:30,719
we're talking about big themes here not

1950
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:34,000
so much dialing down on specific

1951
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,600
yeah i agree you know i

1952
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,840
i don't talk much about the show itself

1953
01:11:42,630 --> 01:11:39,679
um but the reason i started the show is

1954
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:42,640
because i'm a huge fan of coast to coast

1955
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,520
and even alex jones to an extent

1956
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,760
but i just feel like

1957
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:49,760
the guests that are on the show are

1958
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,679
always so more so much more interesting

1959
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:53,679
than the host and i wanted to create a

1960
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,679
show that let the guests speak and also

1961
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:59,440
it's you know it's not about me

1962
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,880
confirming

1963
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,719
with my own independent research what

1964
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,320
they say you know because that's all

1965
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,400
alex jones ever has people on to do is

1966
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,159
confirm his own independent research

1967
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,239
which is just ego service and then on

1968
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:12,480
coast to coast i feel like

1969
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,960
uh it's all softball questions there's

1970
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,880
no and i'm not trying to have a gotcha

1971
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:19,040
show but i want to get deeply into the

1972
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:20,960
material you know just

1973
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:23,199
the the questions on coast to coast seem

1974
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,760
way too vague way too broad and you

1975
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,760
never really get into the meat of things

1976
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:29,600
and that's why i think people call him

1977
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:35,110
but it is what it is i think that a lot

1978
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:36,400
of people have been reaching out to me

1979
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:38,159
lately and saying that they love the way

1980
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:40,640
thc approaches these interviews and

1981
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,880
approaches these subjects and i think

1982
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:44,880
that's great i'm glad that uh without

1983
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:47,600
even saying much about it that the

1984
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,159
the concept behind thg is kind of uh

1985
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:51,840
shining through you know we're

1986
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:54,560
we're a conspiracy and paranormal show

1987
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,600
for the non-religious right because when

1988
01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:59,600
you get down to it it's really odd and

1989
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:01,840
hypocritical that someone would identify

1990
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:03,840
with the conservative or religious right

1991
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:05,679
because you're talking about

1992
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,800
uh conspiracy 101 is that

1993
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,640
it's a shell game between two talking

1994
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:12,239
puppets that don't mean anything it's a

1995
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:14,960
pro wrestling theatrical performance and

1996
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:17,600
these two sides are just there to keep

1997
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,640
us in uh intention and so you know that

1998
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:23,120
that's there to just keep tension high

1999
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:24,800
but yet you're still identifying with

2000
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:26,800
one side and criticizing the other side

2001
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:29,520
it seems completely stupid

2002
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:31,679
it's it's ridiculous i mean people are

2003
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,360
listening to too much

2004
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,320
nonsense content to watch too much tv if

2005
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,560
you're watching the cable news

2006
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,560
it's a big problem

2007
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,159
because none of that stuff it's all

2008
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,640
pre-filtered so it's not gonna be good

2009
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:46,080
good information that way but i feel

2010
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:47,520
like it's a generational thing the

2011
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:49,760
younger people are doing new media the

2012
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:52,400
younger people know about podcasts the

2013
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,400
older people there's some who are hip to

2014
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,719
it and then there's vast numbers who

2015
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:58,880
have been stuck doing what they do day

2016
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:01,679
after day forever and they just can't

2017
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:02,880
they're gonna have a little bit tougher

2018
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,000
time breaking out of their paradigm

2019
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,960
and the biggest criticism of thrive that

2020
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,440
people have is they say oh you know it

2021
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:14,159
has a pretty heavy new age feel to it

2022
01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:16,400
and i'm not going to deny that and there

2023
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:18,640
is a certain amount of cheese to that

2024
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:21,199
approach in my opinion but i mean i

2025
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:23,440
would say that's a pretty petty reason

2026
01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:26,080
to ignore or fail to pass on tons of

2027
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:27,840
great information i mean i'm sure

2028
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:30,640
monsanto and ge would be thrilled to see

2029
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,880
the conversation be about the appeal of

2030
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:35,120
thrive's style rather than getting

2031
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:36,800
hammered with questions pertaining to

2032
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:38,719
the content you know i mean who gives a

2033
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:40,719
[\h__\h] about

2034
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:42,719
the stylings of it ver you know versus

2035
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:44,239
zeitgeist versus thrive i mean the

2036
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,760
information is

2037
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:47,760
is pretty much the same and that's what

2038
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,440
we need to attack yeah i feel like um

2039
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,560
with each iteration like uh with thrive

2040
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,719
and then this serious documentary even

2041
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,480
if some of these things aren't what we

2042
01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:00,880
they thought we would they would be or

2043
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:02,480
maybe there's another zeitgeist movie

2044
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:04,239
and it's maybe not as good as the third

2045
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:07,679
one was you know but each time there

2046
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,480
another thing comes out it kind of like

2047
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:12,239
further enriches

2048
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:13,760
this meme

2049
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:15,199
this big

2050
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:16,239
you know

2051
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:20,159
what a lot of these people are talking

2052
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:21,600
about what the higher side chats is all

2053
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:22,480
about

2054
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,600
is uh this is really the truth and for

2055
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:28,080
some reason we have been taught that we

2056
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:29,760
can't handle the truth

2057
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,760
that the truth in a lot of different

2058
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,920
areas like oh what the military knows

2059
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:36,000
yeah you guys can't can't know that [\h__\h]

2060
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:37,199
like what we're actually doing you can't

2061
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,199
know that [\h__\h] because that's all state

2062
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,360
classified uh you know

2063
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,520
it's the whole idea that there's certain

2064
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,520
things that are off limits for you to

2065
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,640
know for your own good that is not i

2066
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,560
can't trust that i cannot put faith in

2067
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:52,800
that anymore and it makes me feel really

2068
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:55,360
creeped out and it's like why are you

2069
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:57,360
why are these authority figures in a

2070
01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:59,760
position where they control my life and

2071
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,640
yet no decision i make influences their

2072
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:04,480
lives

2073
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:06,400
i mean that's a great point

2074
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,320
you know kyle my man it's always a

2075
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,320
pleasure you know by the next time i

2076
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:12,800
talk to you i'll probably have finally

2077
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,960
granted my consciousness the pleasure of

2078
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,719
melting into the astral dimension and

2079
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:18,719
coming face to face with the totality of

2080
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:21,280
the universe in whatever strange way i

2081
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,440
decide to present myself to myself

2082
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:26,080
whatever the [\h__\h] that means um but i'm

2083
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,679
gonna smoke some dmt and hopefully i'll

2084
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:29,520
be a better man for it so that's a

2085
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:32,239
pretty exciting thing um do you do you

2086
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,640
think i should should i film that

2087
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,480
do not film it do not film it it'd be

2088
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:38,719
embarrassing i believe

2089
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:42,080
it's not a oh man you gotta melt

2090
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,679
talk about you're what your body's gonna

2091
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:45,199
look like while you're in a different

2092
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,840
dimension you really need to melt right

2093
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:49,040
you're not going to be worried so much

2094
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,640
about filming yourself i got to make

2095
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:52,320
sure that my hair looks good if i'm

2096
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:56,080
going to really be astral projecting

2097
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:58,000
yeah well if you're going to make an

2098
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,840
appearance into the spirit realms you

2099
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,679
better make sure it's a good first

2100
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:02,880
impression

2101
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:03,840
no but

2102
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,400
of course i i would like to i would like

2103
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,199
to have some type of

2104
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:10,719
i would like it to be

2105
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:12,000
a

2106
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,360
looks like

2107
01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:19,199
falling asleep you know while something

2108
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,960
crazy is going on in the mind because

2109
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:22,719
obviously it doesn't translate visually

2110
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:23,600
but

2111
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,520
it might be a good idea to capture some

2112
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,920
audio immediately after the event maybe

2113
01:17:31,590 --> 01:17:30,000
i'll have fernando maybe i'll pre-write

2114
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,600
some questions and give them the

2115
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,719
fernando

2116
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:33,840
um

2117
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:36,159
and then maybe coming out of the state

2118
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:39,840
we'll we'll do a reverse interview

2119
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,000
i don't know ideas these are just these

2120
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:43,600
are just ideas i'm spitballing i'm

2121
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,040
throwing [\h__\h] out you can catch it you

2122
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,280
let it drop throw it back do what you do

2123
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,199
but you know as always people check out

2124
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:51,040
kyle prinneville's weekly column

2125
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:53,199
conversations with the other on the

2126
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:54,960
newly redesigned higher side chats

2127
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,040
website the highersidechats.com kyle

2128
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,280
covers some great topics provides an

2129
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,199
insight that enriches my mind on a

2130
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,440
weekly basis and man i thank you for

2131
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,360
putting so much time and effort into

2132
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:06,880
making thc

2133
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,960
something more than just a podcast it's

2134
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,480
it's awesome

2135
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,120
thank you man i really appreciate that i

2136
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:15,760
like the format i like to uh

2137
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:17,760
get tweeted out to so many of the

2138
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,239
followers of the show and uh if you saw

2139
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,400
the comment that somebody left i haven't

2140
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:23,920
responded back to it but i really want

2141
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:24,640
to

2142
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,280
and they uh helpful tips for psychedelic

2143
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,000
trips blog post there's a really honest

2144
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:32,880
comment from a mom she says yeah i go

2145
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,640
through this yeah i take my kids to

2146
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:36,560
school and i i

2147
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:38,800
work the job and i get i pay the bills

2148
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:41,120
you know doing all the same [\h__\h] but

2149
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,120
underneath it all i know the truth

2150
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:44,960
because of what i experienced through my

2151
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:46,960
own psychedelic journeying

2152
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,880
and uh yeah you were talking about that

2153
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:50,400
kind of intro to the show too how

2154
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:52,719
there's this duality there's two lives

2155
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,800
going on the one part of you that knows

2156
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,560
the truth and the one that plays the

2157
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,880
character that has to

2158
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:00,960
be a character in order to survive in

2159
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:03,360
society because you know as foster said

2160
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,679
you can't live without money

2161
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:07,440
touche

2162
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,800
you know all right people you know

2163
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:10,960
that's a wrap because am just showed up

2164
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,960
on netflix and i got a weed brownie with

2165
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:14,880
my name on it so i really gotta get

2166
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,239
going but i love you guys i i don't

2167
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,159
feel worthy of your time but then here

2168
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:22,159
we are when you could be watching kazam

2169
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,800
too so okay then i will see you at the

2170
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:27,679
con con 2013.